Central Qi, Deficiency Taxation, and The Microbiome: Classic Formulas in The Modern Age

With Guest: Eran Even

Episode Qi030

In this episode we discuss the Jing Fang, the classic formulas, as they are being used by Dr. Huang Huang in the modern clinic, along a look at how some of our oldest medicine helps to throw new light on the importance of the digestive system and human biome.

Listen in for a wide ranging discussion that covers the challenges and rewards of studying in China. How some simple formulas from the Shang Han Lun are not so simple once you begin to dig into them, and what it is like to do a Ph.D. in China.
In this conversation we discuss:
  • Perspectives on study in China
  • Visiting acupuncture clinics in Asia
  • Working with Dr. Huang Huang
  • The process of coming up with a thesis subject and how to take modern spin on the Jing Fang without biomedicalizing
  • Taking old concepts and blending with modern perspectives
  • Using both the Jing Fang and modern medicine model
  • Chinese medicine has always had an aspect of evolution through the ages.
  • The importance of the Central Qi, the gut, immunity, combining Li Dong Yuan, and the Shang Han Lun with the modern view of microbiome
  • The seemingly simple complexity of xiao jian zhong tang
  • The role of the central qi and digestion in the xu lao chapter Jing Gui Yao Lue
  • What Eran believes about medicine now, that he didn’t believe 10 years ago
  • The importance of owning the fact we have a business
诗中有画, 画中有诗
“(There exists) poetry within paintings (art) and paintings (art) within poetry”.
This is one of my favourite passages written by the famous Song Dynasty writer and calligrapher Sū Dōng Pō. Not specifically related to medicine per se, but I think it’s message is quite apt in life, as we should always strive to look beyond the superficial and find beauty in most things.
Eran Even

Chinese medicine has been a long passion of mine beginning with studies in herbal medicine 20 years ago. I completed my formal education in all branches of Chinese medicine in 2003 in both Canada and the PRC.

Numerous trips back and forth to China over the years with a focus in classical medicine has directed my path and I am now pursuing a PhD in classical herbal formulas at the Nanjing university of Chinese medicine under the guidance and mentorship of professor Huang Huang. Over the last 15 years I’ve had to shed old habits and relearn Chinese medicine through a classical lens. It’s my life’s work to bring this beautiful medicine to my patients and rekindle the classical wisdom through my translation work.

I feel it’s important to always approach new concepts and ideas with a beginners mind. It’s too easy to get caught up in the ego and it’s ultimately what restricts us in moving forward and beyond our own capabilities. With such a vast body of literature and history I truly feel that only when I reach my death bed that I’ll truly begin to understand.
Links and Resources

Visit Eran's website www.chinesemedicinecases.com for a treasure trove of case studies and translated materials.


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Michael Max

Acupuncturist, Podcast Host
About me
I've always been more drawn to questions than answers. And the practice of medicine seems to more lively when infused with a sense of curiosity and inquiry. It's been delight and honor to be able to discuss our medicine with so many thoughtful and skilled practitioners.

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