Confidence at the beginning of any endeavor, especially at the beginning of a medical practice, a new business, or new career is not possible. You may have some skills, tools and competence in their use. But confidence, that comes later after you’ve had some skin in the game and learned to sort out problems and challenges on your own.

In this discussion with Vanessa Menendez-Covelo we explore how the learning process itself is our teacher, that our confidence comes not from knowing but learning to work through the gaps in our knowledge, and that persistence and perseverance are required for this journey.

Listen in to this conversation on developing a sense of stability in your work, the importance of learning through challenging situations and how a background in computers can help you with learning and practicing acupuncture.

In This Conversation We Discuss:

  • Love of math and science
  • Brave enough to as the dumb question
  • The vital importance of mistakes
  • Questions on confidence
  • Debugging human beings
  • The computer skills that help to inform the practice of Chinese medicine
  • How to tell when someone does not know what they are talking about
  • Debugging your treatments
  • Intuition, hypothesis and testing
  • The machine code of Chinese medicine
  • The power of letting go

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Vanessa Menendez-Covelo

Vanessa was born and grew up in Spain, where she studied Computer Science. In 1997 she moved to the UK to study at Cambridge University, and then worked in technology R&D and in investment banking until 2006, when she decided to retrain as an acupuncturist at the City College of Acupuncture in London, UK.

She now has a clinic in North London and also works as a teaching assistant at the City College of Acupuncture



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