Qiological Live
Interviewing From the Heart

The medical interview is the practicing physician’s essential tool for developing a diagnosis and establishing rapport with the patient. In this live discussion we will explore the Saam acupuncture tradition’s heart centered approach to the medical interview. These explorations will include guiding principles, techniques, and reliable questions to facilitate this approach.

Throughout the discussion a special emphasis will be placed on navigating the dynamic tension inherent in a medical interview. This tension exists between the physician’s task of eliciting specific clinical information alongside their task of facilitating an environment where a patient can spontaneously report relevant clinical information. Two case studies will illustrate the crucial importance of interviewing from the heart especially when using the Saam tradition.


In this real time event we will
  • Guiding principles of a successful interview
  • Exploring interviewing techniques
  • Strategies for navigating the tension between eliciting essential clinical information and creating space for spontaneous reports from the patient
  • Clinically reliable interviewing questions
  • Integrating these concepts into your clinical practice

You’ll have lifetime access to the recording of this Qiological Live seminar

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Live event fee $35 length 90 minutes


Saturday February 12, 2022

9am Pacific • 10am Mountain • 11am Central • 12pm Eastern

“Every life is a piece of art, put together with all means available.” - Pierre Janet

Your Instructor For This Class

Toby Daly

Toby began studying Chinese medicine in 1997 with Sunim Doam, a Korean monk trained in the Saam tradition. He earned his master's degree in Traditional Chinese Medicine in 2002 upon completion of training at the American College of Traditional Chinese Medicine in San Francisco and Chengdu University in China.

During his four years of training in San Francisco, he interned with the prominent acupuncturist Dr. Angela Wu and learned to apply the lofty theories he was studying in school into the pragmatic setting of a busy clinic. In 2013, he developed the Chinese Nutritional Strategies app to provide digital access to the wealth of Chinese dietary wisdom.
In 2016, he completed a PhD in Classical Chinese Medicine under the guidance of 88th generation Daoist priest Jeffery Yuen. In 2021, he developed the Chinese Medical Characters app to enable direct access to foundational Chinese medical terms and concepts.

For the past three years he’s been teaching the Saam method as it was taught to him by his teacher.