What is our universe made of? How does it work, and more importantly– what are we doing here and how do we make sense of it? Eternal questions, unanswerable, but maybe the questions are not for answering, perhaps they are for focusing attention.

In this conversation with Rory Hiltbrand we take a look at our peculiar situation as Beings in between the circle of heaven and square of earth. We dip into mathematics, Donghan Daoist numerology, metaphysics and others head scratching ideas about medicine that practitioners have puzzled over for centuries.

Listen into this discussion of sacred geometry, alchemy, Quantum mechanics and perception. It gets a bit Alice in Wonderland like, but I think you’ll enjoy the trip down this rabbit hole.

In This Conversation We Discuss:

  • Numbers and shapes
  • Our peculiar circumstance
  • The circle of heave and square of earth
  • Do Han tradition through Song Beck
  • DMT and glimpsing the other world
  • Chaos theory and Chinese medicine
  • Saturn’s curious hexagonal storm
  • Daoism is multidimensional math
  • How does acupuncture work?
  • Connection of the San Jiao and nervous system
  • The torus and the taiji
  • How it is that we come out of nature

Don't let theory make your treatments too sophisticated.  Simplicity is often a hallmark of deep wisdom.

Rory Hiltbrand, DACM, L.Ac

I received an undergraduate degree in Mathematical Economics, at which time I was engaged in a research fellowship with the NSF studying Chaos Theory.

I received my Doctorate in Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine from Daoist Traditions College of Medical Arts, where I spent a Summer semester at Tianjin University Teaching Hospital.

For the past decade I have been studying under Grandmaster Sung Baek, the 75th Grandmaster of the Korean Daoist Lineage the Dong Han Clan. I have cornered several professional fighting events on UFC Fight Pass, such as EBI and Polaris.

I hold a utility patent for a molecular water structuring device which benefits a wide range of biological functions. I enjoy Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, meditation and thinking about reality in my free time.



Links and Resources

Visit Rory on his website, or on Instagram.

Rory has two courses:
Unlocking the Source Code of Life: Daoist Numerology Essentials for Chinese Medicine and Personal Insight.
Daoist Cosmology: The Spiritual Science

Here is the link for the lecture on the hyperbolic geometry of DMT experiences. He begins with talking about the initial skepticism in the possibility of producing thermometers for the mysterious phenomenon of heat. He then poses the question, can we measure “how heated up you are by a psychedelic”. Perhaps eventually we'll have instruments to measure this Shaoyang fire.

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