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Not only is acupuncture strange, with its twelve invisible watersheds of flow and influence. But we have the qi jing ba mai. The strange flows… usually translated as the extraordinary vessels.

Some say these are the blueprint that give structure to the embryo as they help to orient and guide development. Others say that these vessels are deeply tied into our psycho-emotive functioning.

Traditionally they were talked about as reservoirs . They helped to regulate the excess or lack in the 12 main channels.

As for me, I can’t say that I understand them all that well. And that is why I like to talk to folks who have spent time investigating the extraordinary nature of these vessels.

Which is why I’m delighted to share this conversation with Yvonne Farrel and Luke Adler.
They’ve spent some time looking into  and clinically working with the 8 extras as we commonly call them.

Are they strange, or are they fundamental? Listen in and find out for yourself.

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In This Conversation We Discuss:

• The Eight Extraordinary Vessels in Chinese medicine
• The archetypal and symbolic nature of the Eight Extraordinary Vessels
• The Chong Mai vessel and its connection to undifferentiated wholeness
• The Ren Mai and Du Mai vessels representing the birth of polarity (yin and yang)
• The Yin Wei and Yang Wei vessels and their role in resource distribution from birth to death
• The Yin Qiao and Yang Qiao vessels and their connection to extroversion and introversion
• The prenatal and postnatal Dai Mai vessels and their functions of integration, mediation, and holding experiences
• The concept of the “basement” or “bucket” representing unprocessed emotions and trauma stored in the Dai Mai
• The importance of embodying and experiencing the vessels, not just intellectually understanding them
• The challenges and growth required in bringing one’s inspiration and spiritual understanding into the practical world
• The archetypal journeys and curriculum represented by the Eight Extraordinary Vessels
• The opportunity for embracing challenges and becoming fully human through the understanding of the Eight Extraordinary Vessels.

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The wealth of Chinese Medicine is vast. I believe in order to practice well we need to make an effort to cultivate presence and embodiment. ​

Yvonne Farrell, L.Ac

I have been in private practice and teaching since 1997. I have a Masters and Doctoral degree from Emperor’s College in Santa Monica, CA. I am licensed to practice in the state of California.

I have taught acupuncture, herbal medicine and Chinese medical diagnosis. I have supervised interns in a clinical setting, taught in several Masters and Doctoral programs and my specialty is the 8 Extraordinary vessels and the Complement channels. (Channel Theory)

I also teach continuing education in the US, Canada and Europe and online courses through Healthy Seminars.

I have written 2 books; Psycho-emotional Pain and the Eight Extraordinary Vessels and Acupuncture for Surviving Adversity, both of which are published by Singing Dragon (London). I am also a contributor to the online journal Medicinal Roots Magazine.

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Connection to your self is connection to your patients​

Luke Adler, L.Ac, DACM

I’ve dedicated my life to guiding others towards healing and wholeness.

Since 2003, I’ve been a practitioner, teacher, and author in the field of mind-body-spirit transformation. My work is rooted in ancient Eastern wisdom, which I’ve been exploring in depth since 2004. I’ve shared my knowledge as faculty at the doctoral level and through transformative retreats and trainings.

As an intuitive healer, I create sacred spaces where individuals can connect with their inner wisdom and innate healing abilities. My passion lies in empowering others to translate their experiences of love into meaningful actions that positively impact the world.

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Links and Resources

Visit Yvonne on her website. 
You can find her classes online classes at Health Seminars. And her books at Singing Dragon. 

Visit Luke on his website. 

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Change happens through time, it unfolds within the rhythmic inhale and exhale, it expresses through lunar and solar cycles, it follows the arc of development, fruition, and decline. There are recognizable pathways and markers that arise within what is mostly a non-linear experience of life.

Daniel Atchison-Nevel used to skip school and hang out at the library where he found himself in the company of old Russian Jewish mystics, their stories and tattered copies of the Dao De Jing. Not a bad place to begin, if your destiny holds the potential to include the practice of Chinese medicine.

Listen into this discussion of how undifferentiated wholeness ratchets down into the world of yin and yang, the constant interplay of fate and destiny, the vital importance of of being able to recognize the impulse towards healing within dysfunction, and how the most profound learning he received on the Extraordinary Vessels came from a man with whom he shared no common language.

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In This Conversation We Discuss:

• Always had strange leanings
• Acupuncture: I’m going to do this for as long as it works
• Being empty enough to meet our patients where they are in our practice
• What makes a person and patient, and a patient a person
• The Extraordinary Vessels begin with an undifferentiated wholeness
• Human beings are the interplay between the descending forces from above and the ascending forces from below
• Thoughts on pre-heaven Jing
• The practice of direct experience
• The potency in the question, “What’s your experience of hearing that?”
• Feeling is the climate for the emotional weather
• Fate is where we find ourselves, and Destiny is what we do with that
•  Dai/Yin Wei, Expressing out into the world: Dai, making value- Yin Wei, this helps emotional regulation
• Internal Ease, External Grace
• To know the vessels, you need to cultivate the vessels, then you can see and interact with them
• An awakening experience of the Extraordinary Vessels
• The vessels as spheres of influence that are both inside and outside of the body
• Recognizing the impulse towards healing within dysfunction
• Another perspective on understanding and treating the Dai
• Setting the table for transformation

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Embrace uncertainty. Remain curious. Be kind.

Daniel J. Atchison-Nevel has been an innovator in the fields of holistic health and acupuncture since 1982. That year, he and his wife Jane Atchison-Nevel co-founded one of the country’s first comprehensive collaborative health centers on Miami Beach.

In 1987 Daniel & Jane organized “one of the pioneering events in American acupuncture history”, the International Acupuncture Symposium held in San Francisco, California

For the last three and a half decades, Dan has specialized in the utilization of acupuncture’s extraordinary vessels, developing the NSEV Healing & Acupuncture approach for diagnosis and care.

In 1999/2000 Daniel and his NSEV colleagues conducted research in conjunction with Florida International University on the effect of acupuncture’s extraordinary vessels on depression. Daniel authored an innovative and comprehensive Clinical Reference Manual for use in the study.

Dan has provided more than 200,000 extraordinary vessel treatments , taught hundreds of practitioners and guided dozens of shared, group acupuncture sessions and retreats throughout the world.

In 2020, in response to the pandemic, Dan founded the NSEV Healing Academy /3 Wombs Academy which provide online classes for interested acupuncturists, doctors and lay people from around the globe.

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Learn more about Daniel’s work on www.nsevhealing.com and www.3wombs.com.  

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